From Dolly Parton's Nashville mansion to the hallowed halls of the White House...to The Smokeless World Studio. Kingsley sits down with veteran Newsnight journalist and bestselling author Gavin Esler to explore how narrative defines our leaders, our politics, and our reality.
Drawing on forty years at the heart of journalism, Gavin shares behind-the-scenes insights into the power of story.
Kingsley and Gavin combine to deliver a masterclass in storytelling. You'll hear about the "boy from Hope" narrative that propelled Clinton to power, the terrifying brilliance of Thatcher's public persona, and the modern phenomenon of "truth decay".
Join Kingsley and Gavin for an eye-opening conversation on why Gavin believes "Britain is better than this", the importance of becoming your own editor, and why a dessert of stewed plums proved to be his undoing on MasterChef.